Cefn Gelli

1871 - 1911

Census Records

This Census indicates that the Son-in-Law, John Thomas, has taken over the farm from the original owner who was Elizabeth Crook. (See 1891 Census return)..

First Name Last Name Age Place of Birth Year of Birth Occupation Relationship to Householder Remarks
John Thomas 40 Bettws 1861 Farmer Head

In the 1891 Census, the farm is shown as having the address "Fountain Street".
Elizabeth Thomas 35 Bettws 1866 Wife (of John Thomas)

Margaret Thomas 9 Bettws 1889 Daughter

Elizabeth (2) Thomas 6 Bettws 1895 Daughter

David Thomas 3 Bettws 1898 Son

Catherine Thomas 1 Bettws 1901 Daughter

Catherine was 4 months old on the date of the Census.
Elizabeth Crook 72 Unknown 1829 Visitor (A Widow)

This Elizabeth is assumed to be the original Owner of the farm (widowed by 1891) - and it is to be confirmed whether she was the same Elizabeth Crook who was widowed by the 1891 Census,

(RG12 Piece 4451 Folio 6 Page 5).

Farm name spelt Kevan Gelli in Census Enumerator's page. Archive Ref HO107 Piece 1422 Book 1 Folio 12 Page 18

First Name Last Name Age Place of Birth Year of Birth Occupation Relationship to Householder Remarks
John Crook 65 Not shown 1776 Farmer Head

Elizabeth Crook 65 Not shown 1776 Wife

John Crook 34 Not shown 1806 Son

He would be John (2)
Jenkin Crook 30 Not shown 1811 Son

William Crook 25 Not shown 1816 Son

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Elizabeth Edmund 15 Not shown 1826 Servant Employee

David Thomas 15 Not shown 1826 Servant Employee

Deborah Edmunds 10 Not shown 1831 Visitor

RG09 Piece 4072 Folio 9 Page 14

First Name Last Name Age Place of Birth Year of Birth Occupation Relationship to Householder Remarks
John Crook 84 Margam 1777 Farmer of 20 Acres Head

He is now a Widower.
John Crook 57 Cefn Gelli 1804 Son

Shown as Unmarried
Edmund Crook 16 Cefn Gelli Farm 1845 Working on the farm Grand Son

Elizabeth Rees 36 Llangywnyd 1825 Servant Employee

Shown as Unmarried
Mary Chard 56 Maesteg 1805 Servant Employee

Shown as Unmarried
Not Shown Thomas 50 Llandyfogwyg 1811 Servant Employee

Christian name is unreadable on the Census Form.

Surname now spelt with an 'E' at the end. RG10 Piece 5412 Folio (Not shown) Page 11

First Name Last Name Age Place of Birth Year of Birth Occupation Relationship to Householder Remarks
John Crook (2) 66 Bettws 1804 Farmer of 259 Acres Head

Son has taken over the property.
Elizabeth Crooke 42 Llangynwyd 1829 Wife

Wonder if Elizabeth was the Elizabeth Rees in the 1861 Census.
Elizabeth (2) Crooke 6 Bettws 1865 Daughter

RG11 Piece 5326 Folio 15 Page 32 The Merthyr Guardian newspaper reported on Sat 1st Dec 1838, that Mr Crook of Bettws was awarded a Premium of £2-0-0d for the excellence of his crop of Mangel Wurzels on 3 Acres when the Glamorganshire General Agricultural Society met for their AGM on 13th Nov 1838.

First Name Last Name Age Place of Birth Year of Birth Occupation Relationship to Householder Remarks
John Crook 76 Bettws 1805 Farmer of 259 Acres Head

Elizabeth Crook 55 Llangynwyd 1826 Wife

Elizabeth (2) Crook 16 Bettws 1865 Daughter

C.M. Crook 14 Bettws 1867 Daughter

Annie Crook 12 Bettws 1869 Daughter

Richard Bowen 15 Llangynwyd 1866 Indoor Servant Employee

Thomas Thomas 30 Cowbridge (Parish of) 1851 Labourer Employee

Abraham David 13 St Brides (Parish of) 1868 Indoor Servant Boy Employee

First Name Last Name Age Place of Birth Year of Birth Occupation Relationship to Householder Remarks
Elizabeth Crook 63 Bettws 1828 Farmer Head

Shown as Widowed by now.

RG12 Piece 4451 Folio 4 Page 5.
Annie Crook 22 Bettws 1869 Servant Daughter

Shown as Single.
John Thomas 30 Bettws 1861 Servant Son in Law.

Elizabeth Thomas 26 Bettws 1865 Servant Daughter

Shown as married. So, her husband was the John above. She is Elizabeth's and John's daughter from 1881.
Obviously the 'Old Man (John) had passed away between 1881 and 1891.
Arthur Harold 20 Somerset 1871 Servant Employee

No size of the property is shown.

RG13 Piece 5043 Folio 19 Page 1

First Name Last Name Age Place of Birth Year of Birth Occupation Relationship to Householder Remarks
John Thomas 40 Bettws 1861 Farmer Head

He is Elizabeth' (2) husband, the son-in-law of the elder Elizabeth Crook. So he has taken over the running of the property.
Elizabeth Thomas 35 Bettws 1866 Wife

Shown as Married.
Margaret Thomas 9 Bettws 1892 Daughter

Elizabeth Thomas 6 Bettws 1895 Daughter

David Thomas 3 Bettws 1898 Son

Catherine Thomas 1 Bettws 1901 Daughter

Actually aged 4 Months, but the dialogue box constraints limit the number to whole years.
Catherine Thomas 1 Bettws 1901 Daughter

Actually shown as '0'. So, she was born the same year.
Elizabeth Crook 72 Bettws 1829 Widowed visitor

Most likely to have been the Mother of Elizabeth(2)

RG14 Piece 32542 Schedule 3

First Name Last Name Age Place of Birth Year of Birth Occupation Relationship to Householder Remarks
John Thomas 53 Blackmill 1858 Farmer Head

Elizabeth Thomas 46 Bettws 1865 Wife

Maggie Thomas 19 Bettws 1892 Dairy Work Daughter

Shown as Single
Elizabeth Thomas 16 Bettws 1895 Dairy work Daughter

David C. Thomas 13 Bettws 1898 Son

Catherine Thomas 10 Bettws 1901 Daughter

Sarah Thomas 5 Bettws 1906 Daughter

Lies on the bend between Moel Gilau and Llangeinor. The 1911 Census shows that one child had died - because 7 live births are indicated but only 6 are shown in the "Still living" column. (RG14 Piece 32542 Ref 1859). The Census also shows only 5 names, so one child must have been absent on the day of the Census. The Census shows that John and Elizabeth married in 1891.

First Name Last Name Age Place of Birth Year of Birth Occupation Relationship to Householder Remarks
John Thomas 53 Blackmill 1858 Farmer Head

Elizabeth Thomas 46 Bettws 1865 Wife

They married in 1891. The Glamorgan Advertiser for 12 January 1951, shows that Elizabeth Thomas was buried in Bettws Church. She would have been 86.
Amongst the list of mourners are shown :-
John Crook (from Typica Farm ???),
her Daughter - ELizabeth(2);
her son, David and his wife;
Trefor Thomas her Grandson;
William Lewis and his wife (Grandson).
Maggie Thomas 19 Bettws 1892 Dairy work. Daughter

Elizabeth (2) Thomas 16 Bettws 1899 Daughter

David C. Thomas 13 Bettws 1898 Son

Catherine Thomas 10 Bettws 1901 Daughter

Sarah Thomas 5 Bettws 1906 Daughter